http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/11/swine-flu-pandemic-vaccine-nhs
Swine flu fears grow as NHS staff shun vaccine
Denis Campbell, health correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 11 October 2009 22.39 BST
• Health department urges frontline staff to get jab
• Inoculation vital in efforts to contain pandemic
The Department of Health has ordered NHS bosses across England to ensure that frontline staff get immunised against swine flu amid growing signs that many doctors and nurses intend to shun the vaccine.
Chief executives and boards who run hospitals, primary care trusts and strategic health authorities have been told to urgently maximise the number of workers having the jab. Leading DH figures including Sir Liam Donaldson, the chief medical officer, have written to them six times in the last five weeks stressing the need for action before the second wave of the pandemic causes major problems.
Sir Liam, you've written SIX TIMES in the last FIVE WEEKS stressing the "NEED" for action before the SECOND WAVE of the PANDEMIC causes MAJOR PROBLEMS? What exactly are you so stressed out about Sir? Let's take a look at some of the obvious reasons why so many people are not interested in taking your shots. First, the fact that you're so adamant and are using words like "urgent" and "need". Vaccines have never been urgent or necessary, in spite of the current hysterical sermonizing to the opposite. If you would kindly provide the detailed documentation to prove your beliefs, then my golly, I'll bet people could see what you see. But as it stands nobody can see what you see because it doesn't seem to be there. Which makes you look rather foolish. Or creepy. Or both.
And what makes you so sure that a "SECOND WAVE" is as sure as the sun rising tomorrow AND that there will be something about it that is so vastly different from its current rather innocuous state that it will become so very serious? How would you know?
And exactly what "MAJOR PROBLEMS" are you expecting? You're not being at all specific, it's not that hard to understand that nobody understands why you're going on the way you are. How about breaking out the DATA or whatever information you seem to be working from and showing it to the public so they can see it too? I'm sure everyone would like to know how you are able to see into the future so well, and why you're so amazingly short on specifics and details of any kind. That should get you started on things to consider, Sir Liam.
Ian Dalton, the NHS's national director of flu resilience, last week warned that vaccination of nurses, doctors and other frontline staff was "absolutely critical" and that widespread take-up of the jabs "will help us to save lives".
The DH's letters stress that patients' health could be put at risk and the NHS left seriously short-staffed through virus-related absenteeism if senior managers do not overcome "perceived obstacles" to the vaccination of workers. Swine flu's threat is so great that the NHS must avoid only small numbers of personnel getting immunised, as usually happens with seasonal flu every winter, the letters add.
They stress that vulnerable patients could be endangered if staff decide not to heed repeated urgings from Donaldson and other senior figures to have the vaccine. There are growing signs that large numbers of workers will shun the jabs because they see them as unnecessary and potentially unsafe.
That's probably because they are unnecessary and unsafe. Go figure.
Dalton wrote to the chief executives of local NHS organisations in England on 10 September telling them: "We all know that uptake of the seasonal flu vaccine among NHS staff is traditionally low. It is an NHS board responsibility that we do not find ourselves in this position with the swine flu vaccine."
But hospital chief executives have told the Guardian that they expect as few as 10%-20% of their staff to get vaccinated and cannot fulfil the DH's demands because the jabs, which are due to begin within days, are entirely voluntary.
Then why can't they grasp the clue? Nobody wants their nasty vaccines. Why are they pushing it and pushing it and pushing it? What the hell are they doing?
One chief executive of a busy urban hospital in one of the swine flu "hotspots" said: "At the moment in my hospital if nothing changes then it could be that 10%-20% of staff have the swine flu jab … Staff could have the virus and pass it on to patients, a proportion of whom will die, albeit a very small proportion."
He added: "The other consequence is that if loads of staff go off with swine flu that will leave us short-staffed, which is dangerous to patients. That's a bigger danger than transmission."
HOLD ON A MINUTE. What are they claiming here? Are they suggesting that getting this vaccine will somehow prevent anyone from spreading a virus they're exposed to? If that's TRUE then this vaccine is no less than a flaming miracle. Preventing the transference of germs in the air or on your skin because you got a shot is not, as far as I know, something within the realm of current medical ability. In fact the claim is so idiotic it's hard to believe anyone would dare suggest it. It's a BIG FAT LIE.
They also seem to be suggesting that anyone who gets the vaccine will somehow be guaranteed not to get the virus. Well that's just flat out bull crap. In fact records indicate that during previous epidemics, it is those who take the vaccines that end up getting sick by overwhelming majority. One begins to wonder if ANY country's National Department of Health has ever read a book on the subject. They seem to be making it up as they go. Either that or they're BIG FAT LIARS.
Another hospital chief executive said: "Ideally it should be 100% of frontline staff having the swine flu vaccine. But it obviously isn't going to be. I hope we'll get at least the 50% we usually get for seasonal flu. This is important because although this strain of swine flu is mild in most people, if it's contracted by someone with an underlying health condition that can be serious."
One medical director at another hospital added: "The word on the street in NHS staff circles is that the vaccine is no good and you shouldn't bother with it. Nurses in particular worry that there may be side-effects, that corners have been cut in producing the vaccine and that the generally mild nature of the virus means they don't need to take it. As few as 10%-15% of doctors may have it because we doctors believe ourselves to be above such trivial things as infections."
A poll by Nursing Times magazine last week showed that the proportion of nurses who do not intend to get vaccinated has risen from 31% in August to 47%, while those who definitely will has fallen from 35% to 23%.
Dame Christine Beasley, the chief nursing officer for England, responded by stressing that the vaccine is "as safe as a vaccine can be" and adding: "Nothing in life is risk-free. I can well understand people being worried. I can well understand people thinking it's only a mild illness and why should I bother? I do understand all that, I think you wouldn't be human if you didn't think that." Beasley wants directors of nursing to act as role models to allay concerns among frontline nurses.
Then this Dame Beasley person is a heinous beast. She is telling staff with legitimate concerns to pretend they don't have their legitimate life and death concerns and take the shot anyway to get everyone to do it. In other words, she is blowing them off like irrelevant maggots and telling them she doesn't care they want nothing to do with it. Well gee Dame Beasley, what's your story? Why don't you show some respect to these health care professionals instead of treating them like stupid animals who don't deserve to have an opinion over their own health and bodies? Who the hell are you to act like that? Are you SPECIAL Dame Beasley? Because you don't seem very special to me. In fact you seem like a vicious new world order brown noser. Pathetic. BACK OFF. People know what they want, it's just you lot that doesn't seem able to get that.
Hospital chief executives say privately that Donaldson's repeated reminders of the mild nature of swine flu's effects in those who contract it, and recent claim that the UK is "tantalisingly close" to beating the virus, may be leading staff to believe that vaccination is not important.
It's not important. There's your problem right there.
The health department said: "Frontline healthcare workers will be absolutely crucial in the height of a pandemic – without them, patient care will suffer, and the NHS will be stretched. Getting the swine flu vaccine will protect them and their patients."
It's clear "the health department" either really believes that or they're really huge big fat liars. Perhaps if they stopped being so condescending and explained exactly how they think it is that taking the shot will protect hospital staff and their patients it might help a good bit. Because they're not stupid. And they clearly don't buy the Health Department nonsense because what you're all claiming doesn't make any sense at all. You're not telling the truth. No wonder people are more freaked about the vaccine than they are about the flu.
Nobody trusts you people. You're unbelievably scary. You're telling lies, you're pushing too hard, and you're treating people you claim to care about and respect like stupid, irrelevant small animals. You're transparent as hell and either just drunk on your own goofy koolaid, or you're genuinely dangerous. As in sociopathic. Only you know for sure. Bottom line, start sticking to facts. Publish all data. Stop making things up and quit pushing. If people don't want it, they don't want it. Accept it and get on with your life.
It added: "All NHS organisations will be working hard to ensure that all eligible staff have the choice to protect themselves and their patients from swine flu by having the vaccine."
Yes, well, you've done that. They have the choice. Now let them reject it unless you can show them hard facts. All righty?
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Mrs. Klebold talking?
Mrs. Klebold is finally ready to talk.
You know she has something to say that needs to be heard.
After hearing Lee Harvey Oswald's mother reading of the letters from her son and talking about who he was, I got a whole 'nother insight into these highly publicized "shooters" and how unlikely it is they have anything to do with whatever it was that went down.
The public has treated Lee Harvey's mom like dirt. People can be such assholes at times. What did Lee Harvey's mother have to do with anything? Why hate her? Think. She's not responsible for what another human being does, is she? She lost her son.
Something, understand, these mothers know the real low down. They just won't or can't come out and tell it like it is, at least not publicly. But if you listen carefully, read carefully, you can read between the lines with their well chosen words.
Mrs. Klebold no doubt has some ideas along those lines too, I'd bet my butt on it.
Mother of Columbine killer tells of horror 10 years after massacre
October 11, 2009
• Susan Klebold says she is haunted by school killings
• 'I cannot look at a child without thinking about it'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/11/columbine-massacre-susan-klebold
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(I missed this when it happened)
Columbine grieves again
Tuesday 15 February 2000
Two teenagers who attended Columbine high school - the scene of the biggest classroom massacre in American history - were found shot dead yesterday in a sandwich shop. The bodies of a boy of 15 and a 16-year-old girl were discovered less than a mile from the school in asuburb of Denver where two teenagers, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, shot dead 12 pupils and a teacher before turning the guns on themselves last April. At least one of yesterday's victims worked at the shop. "As far as a motive, I think it will be a whilebefore we can establish that," said Steve Davis, a police spokesman. The new killings coincided with the disclosure that Harris and Klebold were much more heavily armed than was previously realised.The pair were equipped with 95 explosive devices, enough to destroy the buildings and kill hundreds of pupils.
-----------------------------------Question:You know she has something to say that needs to be heard.
After hearing Lee Harvey Oswald's mother reading of the letters from her son and talking about who he was, I got a whole 'nother insight into these highly publicized "shooters" and how unlikely it is they have anything to do with whatever it was that went down.
The public has treated Lee Harvey's mom like dirt. People can be such assholes at times. What did Lee Harvey's mother have to do with anything? Why hate her? Think. She's not responsible for what another human being does, is she? She lost her son.
Something, understand, these mothers know the real low down. They just won't or can't come out and tell it like it is, at least not publicly. But if you listen carefully, read carefully, you can read between the lines with their well chosen words.
Mrs. Klebold no doubt has some ideas along those lines too, I'd bet my butt on it.
Mother of Columbine killer tells of horror 10 years after massacre
October 11, 2009
• Susan Klebold says she is haunted by school killings
• 'I cannot look at a child without thinking about it'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/11/columbine-massacre-susan-klebold
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(I missed this when it happened)
Columbine grieves again
Tuesday 15 February 2000
Two teenagers who attended Columbine high school - the scene of the biggest classroom massacre in American history - were found shot dead yesterday in a sandwich shop. The bodies of a boy of 15 and a 16-year-old girl were discovered less than a mile from the school in asuburb of Denver where two teenagers, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, shot dead 12 pupils and a teacher before turning the guns on themselves last April. At least one of yesterday's victims worked at the shop. "As far as a motive, I think it will be a whilebefore we can establish that," said Steve Davis, a police spokesman. The new killings coincided with the disclosure that Harris and Klebold were much more heavily armed than was previously realised.The pair were equipped with 95 explosive devices, enough to destroy the buildings and kill hundreds of pupils.
Does no one find it bizarre that on the ground hard three dimensional facts, usually referred to as "evidence", were still being determined months after the event? How do they manage to discover previously undiscovered bombs. How do they explain the two boys carrying in 95 explosives unnoticed? How do they explain where they got the explosives? Why does no one have the slightest curiosity about such glaring unexplained irregularities?
EVERYTHING ABOUT THE COLUMBINE SHOOTINGS STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN
IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE ASPECT
IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE ASPECT
-----UK Guardian does a 10 year "anniversary" if you want to call it that, of the Columbine shootings. Several long articles, several short articles. A couple articles linked below. They've also got a photo show. One rather compelling photo attached. In fact, make it two attachments. Why are these photos so strangely compelling to me? Any ideas?
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Ten years on and Columbine still feels the pain
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/12/columbine-massacre-ten-year-anniversary
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Columbine computer game 'trivialises' school shootings
"The site's creator told the Rocky Mountain News in an email interview that he wanted to create something that would "promote a real dialogue on the subject of school shootings". The creator, who identified himself only by the name "Columbin", said he was inspired to make the game because he was in Colorado at the time of the attack. "I was a bullied kid. I didn't fit in, and I was surrounded by a culture of elitism as espoused by our school's athletes." He said that he considered the killers, at times, to be "very thoughtful, sensitive and intelligent young men".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/may17games.gunviolenceinamerica
Quick facts recap:
-Was there on the day.
-Refuses to be honest about who he is.
-Comes up with the most disgusting "game" in the history of the planet.
-Is obviously a sick freak.
Conclusion:
Organized crime (aka elements of your dear government) was behind Columbine and are behind this "game"
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